3. The connections for transmitters fitted with buddy box
The person that send me an E-mail on the 25th of september 2008 with a solution
for connecting a Graupner to an EVO-12, please contact me again; your E-mail was accidently deleted by my anti-spam filter
Read the previous chapters before starting this one !!!
Futaba : 4 types of buddy boxes, one with
DIN connector 6 contacts (fig. 3-01), 2 others with a mono jack
connector of 3.5 mm or 2.5 mm (fig. 3-02) and a last one with a square
connector (fig. 3-03). The buddy box is not standard on certain types
of transmitters and costs +/- 25 Euro, the lead with DIN connectors +/-
35 Euro, the lead with jack connectors +/- 7 Euro.
configuration viewed on female plug mating face :
1 = +V batteries (SWITCHED)
Shield = GROUND
2 = OUT
3 = IN
4 = +V (for some transmitters only). Connecting pin 4 and 5 to each other on some transmitters will stop the HF-transmission
and thus the transmiiter will not send out any signal (this is the case for 9ZAP/9ZHP, probably
also for the FF8/8UAP and FF7/7UAP, NOT for the Robbe/Futaba F16-FC16-FC18, for the FC28 I don't know)
6 = +5v on certain transmitters only (9ZAP/9ZHP, probably FF8/8UAP and FF7/7UAP) and is used by DSC-cable.
Fig. 3-02 : Jack, mono,
3.5 mm, male and female
(for the Futaba FX14 & FX18 : jack 2.5 mm)
Futaba FX 14 & FX 18 : the buddy box is standard from factory, but the
jack is of diameter 2.5 mm instead of 3.5 mm. Futaba has a lead with on one
side a jack 2.5mm, and on the other side a jack 3.5mm. All this to make flying
instruction more complicate between the same brand of radios! Or is this called
new technology? Anyway, for the handyman that you are, there will be no problem
to make a lead yourself.
Futaba FF9/9C : this radio is fitted with a SQUARE-TYPE of buddy box connector !!!
And of course not to be found in the normal electronic shop, being a Futaba-standard!!!
Isn't this a nice way to promote RC-flying to newbies?? Bah!??
Since then, those connectors are available here :
Hereunder the pin-lay-out in fig.3-03 received from
David Armstrong and personally checked. He wrote me :
"I used some pcb header pins and glued two rows of 3 pins , and some heat shrink sleeving around
the outer, seems to work ok at the moment. There is no facility to switch off the pupils
transmitter (or at least I have not figured it out), so removal of the crystal or module from
slave-transmitter is required."
Another correspondent A.Pinchon confirmed that bridging
connection 4 and 5 with the transmitter OFF, the transmitter is switching on but the HF-part is
not working (thus no transmission, used e.o. for DSC).
I bought a buddy lead with square connector to DIN-connector (ref. 1592) and paid 29 Euro... Futaba knows why...
Hitec : A correspondent from New Zealand, Alan Tong
confirms this :
"All Hitec buddy box sockets are from the same type as Futaba DIN-socket with 6 contacts. The
Hitec and Futaba radios are fully compatible except that Hitec recommend the use of their trainer
cord #5810 which has one end labelled "Master" and the other "Slave". The slave end has pin 4 and
5 shorted out (pin 4 and 5 connected to each other)."
ATTENTION 1 :
There is still a difference between Hitec and Futaba : Hitec has pin 6 connected to the ground
(as well inside the transmitter as in the cord) ,but on some Futaba radios pin 6 gives +5Volt
(for DSC). Above that, on some Hitec TX, pin 4 is also connected to Ground (contrary to Futaba, where it is +V !!!).
There have been cases where a small electronic component (probably a self of 10µH)
fried inside the Futaba radio, but without any known consequences. It's about the FF8/8UAP.
A friend of mine fried his Futaba 9Zap when connecting to a Hitec Flash.
The problem is caused by the difference in assignment of pin 6 and 4 between Futaba and
ATTENTION 2 :
Problems can also arise when 2 Hitec transmitters are connected with a Futaba buddy cord, where
smoke comes out of one of the radios. This happens with some more recent Hitec radios, but not
any problem exists when using a Hitec trainer cord.
Here the problem cases when a Futaba trainer cord is used :
Eclipse<-->Prism, Eclipse<-->Flash, Eclipse<-->Focus,
Laser<-->Prism, Laser<-->Flash, Laser<-->Focus
Note from Hitec found on their site http://www.hitecrcd.com/Radios/RadioHome.htm
Important Information Regarding Trainer cord compatibility
To our valued customers,
While Hitec radios are known to be trainer compatible with other Hitec
and Futaba systems, Hitec has determined that the two-way Futaba cord
is not 100% compatible with our systems and strongly suggests it not be
used at any time. Our tests show that when the Futaba trainer cord is
used with a Hitec radio the slave transmitter will emit an RF signal,
thus creating a potentially dangerous interference situation, and in
some cases will burn up components in the slave and or master radio.
Hitec suggests that only the one-way Hitec trainer cord (#58310) be
used with Hitec radio systems for training. Failing to do so will void
the customers warranty and could create a potentially dangerous
situation. Hitec apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause, but
the safety of our customers is our utmost concern.
My conclusion for the Hitec-story : to connect 2 Hitec to each other or Futaba to Hitec, make yourself a trainer
cord only and exactly
as described in fig. 7f-03 of chapitre 7, it's the simpliest and the
only solution without any risk. You will then have to remove the
crystal from the slave transmitter. If one of the connectors is not a
DIN 240°, then always the same
principle : only connect ground and signal (OUT or IN)
Multiplex : fig. 3-04
configuration viewed on female plug mating face :
3 = Ground
4 = OUT / IN
1 = +V batteries
2 = + V batteries (SWITCHED)
5 = not used (see hereunder)
The new models of Multiplex radios have 3 more contacts that are used to
copy data to another radio or to a PC or for direct connection to the receiver
for adjustments without HF.
The new Multiplex Royal Evo is thrown into the market.
On this radio, there is a possibility within the programming to define
what brand of radio is used as pupil-radio. This manufacturer finally understood.
For linking 2 Multiplex radios for teaching, there are 2
A) buddy box between 2 older types of radios
pupil-TX to master-TX :
(e.o. Europa Sport, Europa Sprint, Europa MC, Combi 80, Royal 5+2):
contact 3 to 3
contact 2 to 1
B) buddy box with one new type of radio as master :
Here you'll find the drawing of the original buddy lead of Multiplex (fig 3-05) :
Notes : The bridge between contact 3 and 5 makes the HF-part
inoperative for all Multiplex radios.
If you don't want the pupil-TX being powered by the battery of the
master-TX, do not connect contact 2 to 2.
The original lead is not shielded, but at every end a ferrite core is
fitted with the lead being 5 times wrapped around.
If you use a shielded lead, I suppose that ferrites are not necessary.
About the capacitor and the resistor (and the ferrites), I found a
website were they where all omitted...
Originally the Pico Line and Cockpit radios can only be
used as pupil-TX.
According to Multiplex, the Cockpit can be used as master transmitter with the Pico-line as slave, but only
with the specific cable ref. 85122 (+/-23 Euro). The Cockpit can of
course be used as slave transmitter with his "bigger" brothers of
Multiplex (and other brands…). According to Dutch contacts, the
tric of that specific lead consists of making the HF-part inoperative
from one transmitter and activate the HF-part of the other transmitter
at the same time (by means of a switch that bridges connection 3 and
Robbe : fig. 3-04
Contact pin configuration viewed on female plug mating face :
2 = Ground
1 = OUT
4 = IN
3 = +V batteries
5 = +V batteries (SWITCHED)
Some transmitters of this brand (CM-Rex,Terra Top FMSS/PCMS, ...) have
for the neutral of the servos the choice between an impulse of 1.3 msec or 1.5
msec. The present standard for servos is 1.5 msec (except for Multiplex, see chap. 1)
and the dipswitch here for must thus be set in this position as to correspond as close as possible with
the recent transmitters.
Sanwa/Airtronics : fig. 3-04 (some info from the excellent site of P. Touzet :
completed by André Gerbelot (email@example.com) and mr.rc-cam)
I never had a Sanwa in my hands...
configuration of Sanwa viewed on female plug mating face :
1 = ??
2 = Ground
3 = OUT
4 = +V switched
5 = IN
It seems that the Sanwa/Airtronics Infinity, Quasar and Stylus are
fitted with other connectors and that for buddy box purpose these
transmitters are only compatible with an identical transmitter (thus
Infinity to Infinity, Stylus to Stylus or Quasar, Quasar to Quasar).
No problem between the RD8000, RD6000, VG400, VG600, Radiant and Vanguard PPM.
The buddy box for most of these transmitters (or for all??) are optional. The buddy box of
Graupner transforms the electrical PPM-signal in an optical signal, send by the optical buddy
lead Graupner to the other transmitter, in order to be transformed again into an electrical
signal. The buddy box will cost you +/- 30 Euro, the lead 70 Euro!!
For the connections of this lead (fig. 3-06), I refer to P. Touzet on his site as mentioned above.
For buddy box purpose, JR is using the same mono jack 3.5mm plug as Futaba (signal on the tip
of the plug, see fig. 3-02).
From the following transmitters, I know that the female buddy box plug is standard fitted :
X-3810, X-388, X-347, X-756.
For those who still did not understand what to do :
See chapter 7 for some examples of buddy leads.